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Vankurou: /* Bard and Prince */

2021-06-01T03:14:11Z

Bard and Prince

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	== {{Anchor\|Bard}} and {{Anchor\|Prince}} ==		== {{Anchor\|Bard}} and {{Anchor\|Prince}} ==
	Bard and Prince are a pair of classes, respectively passive (+) and active (-), that deal with destruction. The Prince, as the active, is literally simplified to "destroyer of [aspect]" or "one who destroys via [aspect]". Bards are somewhat stranger, in that they "allow the destruction of [aspect]" or "invite destruction through [aspect]". The Bard is also quite the wildcard, unpredictable by nature and thus equally likely to help or hinder ~~his~~ party, often to great effect. In extreme cases, they are single-handedly responsible for their party's massive downfall, their improbable victory, or sometimes even both.		Bard and Prince are a pair of classes, respectively passive (+) and active (-), that deal with destruction. The Prince, as the active, is literally simplified to "destroyer of [aspect]" or "one who destroys via [aspect]". Bards are somewhat stranger, in that they "allow the destruction of [aspect]" or "invite destruction through [aspect]". The Bard is also quite the wildcard, unpredictable by nature and thus equally likely to help or hinder their party, often to great effect. In extreme cases, they are single-handedly responsible for their party's massive downfall, their improbable victory, or sometimes even both.

	Princes, it seems, are devoid of their aspect. Due to their nature as the destroyer class, it stands to reason that they destroy their aspect in themselves.		Princes, it seems, are devoid of their aspect. Due to their nature as the destroyer class, it stands to reason that they destroy their aspect in themselves.

MJL: clean up

2021-06-01T03:10:44Z

clean up

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	== Gendered Alignment ==		== Gendered Alignment ==
	Classes have no gender alignment in Vast Error.		Classes have no gender alignment in Vast Error.
	<ref>~~"Gendered classes are absolutely not a thing in ve"-@eddieDraws~~[https://discordapp.com/channels/259021334804299786/747967215348875284/779931331072098324]</ref>		<ref>[https://discordapp.com/channels/259021334804299786/747967215348875284/779931331072098324 "Gendered classes are absolutely not a thing in ve"-@eddieDraws]</ref>

	== {{Anchor\|Thief}} and {{Anchor\|Rogue}} ==		== {{Anchor\|Thief}} and {{Anchor\|Rogue}} ==
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	The only known Bard is [[Arcjec Voorat]], the Bard of Breath; the only known Prince is [[Occeus Coliad]], the Prince of Blood.		The only known Bard is [[Arcjec Voorat]], the Bard of Breath; the only known Prince is [[Occeus Coliad]], the Prince of Blood.

			==References==
			{{Reflist}}
	[[Category:Vast Error concepts]]		[[Category:Vast Error concepts]]

>Pannilovie: if i recall correctly, there are no "offshoot timelines" in vast error, so i removed a section of a seer's powers

2021-03-18T12:59:45Z

if i recall correctly, there are no "offshoot timelines" in vast error, so i removed a section of a seer's powers

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	== Seer ==		== Seer ==
	The Seer is a passive (+) class that uses extensive knowledge to coordinate their team members. They understand their aspect comprehensively. Seers will also keep their party from making grave mistakes as if they had a strategy guide imprinted deep in their mind~~. The knowledge of offshoot timeline outcomes is fully within their domains~~.		The Seer is a passive (+) class that uses extensive knowledge to coordinate their team members. They understand their aspect comprehensively. Seers will also keep their party from making grave mistakes as if they had a strategy guide imprinted deep in their mind.

	The only known Seer is [[Albion Shukra]], the Seer of Hope.		The only known Seer is [[Albion Shukra]], the Seer of Hope.
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	The Sylph is a magic-based class that is thought to specialize in healing. Its placement on the passive/active scale is unknown, although it is heavily speculated to be passive (+).		The Sylph is a magic-based class that is thought to specialize in healing. Its placement on the passive/active scale is unknown, although it is heavily speculated to be passive (+).

	The only known Sylph is [[Tazsia]], the Sylph of Rage.		The only known Sylph is [[Tazsia Poemme]], the Sylph of Rage.

	== Witch ==		== Witch ==

EddieDraws: removed muse and lord as they do not exist in vast error

2021-03-14T19:40:10Z

removed muse and lord as they do not exist in vast error

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-A '''class''' is one part of a [[Mythological Roles|title]] assigned to a player, the other part being [[aspect]]. There are twelve known normal classes and two "master" classes, making 14 known classes in total. Classes describes how a player uses their aspect. it is implied by [[White Noise]] that Class is determined by a player's personality.
+A '''class''' is one part of a [[Mythological Roles|title]] assigned to a player, the other part being the [[aspect]]. Classes describe how a player utilizes their aspect, and it is implied by [[White Noise]] that Class is determined by a player's personality. There are twelve different classes in total: Page, Prince, Mage, Bard, Heir, Thief, Rogue, Seer, Knight, Witch, Maid and Sylph.
 A few class mechanics have been explicitly explained, others only implied.
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 The only known Bard is [[Arcjec Voorat]], the Bard of Breath; the only known Prince is [[Occeus Coliad]], the Prince of Blood.
 [[Category:Vast Error concepts]]

>Pannilovie: added info about some classes based on austins new post!!

2021-02-23T22:25:04Z

added info about some classes based on austins new post!!

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	== Heir ==		== Heir ==
	The exact powers of the Heir class are unknown and are up to reader interpretation. Whether the class is active or passive is also unknown.		The exact powers of the Heir class are unknown and are up to reader interpretation. Whether the class is active or passive is also unknown. An heir has innate control or ties to their aspect.<ref>From @avstinado on Twitter: "different from a class like the knight who protects/exploits their aspect or an heir, who have innate control and ties to their aspect"[https://twitter.com/avstinado/status/1364327149726007296]</ref>

	[[Jentha Briati]] is the Heir of Light while [[Hyperbolic Behemoth]] is the Heir of Heart.		[[Jentha Briati]] is the Heir of Light while [[Hyperbolic Behemoth]] is the Heir of Heart.
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	== Page ==		== Page ==
	The ~~exact~~ definition of the ~~Page~~ class is ~~currently unknown, as~~ is ~~its passive/active alignment~~, ~~though it is hinted that~~ the ~~class "provides others with [~~aspect]" ~~or "creates~~ [~~aspect~~]".		The page is a passive (+) class. The definition of a page is "one who is in servitude towards, or follows the whims of their aspect."<ref>From @avstinado on Twitter: "Ve's definition of the page class is 'one who is in servitude towards, or follows the whims of their aspect'"[https://twitter.com/avstinado/status/1364327142818009094]</ref>

	~~Pages seem~~ to ~~have~~ a ~~tendency~~ to ~~begin~~ their ~~sessions~~ with ~~a personal deficit~~ in their aspect.		The journey of a page is to reclaim their soul and work in tandem with their aspect, to not allow it to overtake them.<ref>From @avstinado on Twitter: "a page's journey is to reclaim their soul and work in tandem with their aspect, to not allow it to overtake them"[https://twitter.com/avstinado/status/1364327147238793224?s=20]</ref> Pages are dominated by their aspect and need to regain control in order to reach their pure self.<ref>From @avstinado on Twitter: "pages are DOMINATED by their aspect and need to REGAIN control in order to reach their PURE SELF."[https://twitter.com/avstinado/status/1364327149726007296?s=20]</ref>

	[[Sovara Amelie]] is the Page of Heart while [[Crypthead Dionysus]] is the Page of Doom.		[[Sovara Amelie]] is the Page of Heart while [[Crypthead Dionysus]] is the Page of Doom.

	== Knight ==		== Knight ==
	The exact powers of a Knight are unknown, but they have been shown as warriors that exploit their aspect as a weapon. It is unclear where they fall on the active/passive axis.		The exact powers of a Knight are unknown, but they have been shown as warriors that protect exploit their aspect as a weapon. It is unclear where they fall on the active/passive axis.

	The only known Knight is [[Laivan Ferroo]], the Knight of Space.		The only known Knight is [[Laivan Ferroo]], the Knight of Space.

	== Seer ==		== Seer ==
	The Seer is a passive (+) class, that uses extensive knowledge to coordinate their team members. They understand their aspect comprehensively. Seers will also keep their party from making grave mistakes as if they had a strategy guide imprinted deep in their mind. The knowledge of offshoot timeline outcomes is fully within their domains.		The Seer is a passive (+) class that uses extensive knowledge to coordinate their team members. They understand their aspect comprehensively. Seers will also keep their party from making grave mistakes as if they had a strategy guide imprinted deep in their mind. The knowledge of offshoot timeline outcomes is fully within their domains.

	The only known Seer is [[Albion Shukra]], the Seer of Hope.		The only known Seer is [[Albion Shukra]], the Seer of Hope.

>Pannilovie: minor spelling/grammar mistakes

2020-11-27T20:45:52Z

minor spelling/grammar mistakes

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	A '''class''' is one part of a [[Mythological Roles\|title]] assigned to a player, the other part being [[aspect]]. There are twelve known normal classes and two "master" classes, making 14 known classes in total. Classes ~~describehow~~ a player ~~can use~~ their aspect. it is implied by ~~white noise~~ that Class is determined by a ~~person~~'s personality.		A '''class''' is one part of a [[Mythological Roles\|title]] assigned to a player, the other part being [[aspect]]. There are twelve known normal classes and two "master" classes, making 14 known classes in total. Classes describes how a player uses their aspect. it is implied by [[White Noise]] that Class is determined by a player's personality.

	A few class mechanics have been explicitly explained, others only implied.		A few class mechanics have been explicitly explained, others only implied.

>Stellarium aenous at 11:05, 22 November 2020

2020-11-22T11:05:33Z

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	A '''class''' is one part of a [[Mythological Roles\|title]] assigned to a player, the other part being [[aspect]]. There are twelve known normal classes and two "master" classes, making 14 known classes in total. Classes ~~describe the intended role of~~ a ~~particular~~ player ~~in Sburb, and how they~~ can use their aspect.		A '''class''' is one part of a [[Mythological Roles\|title]] assigned to a player, the other part being [[aspect]]. There are twelve known normal classes and two "master" classes, making 14 known classes in total. Classes describehow a player can use their aspect. it is implied by white noise that Class is determined by a person's personality.

	A few class mechanics have been explicitly explained, others only implied.		A few class mechanics have been explicitly explained, others only implied.

>Chaoticwoof: /* Gendered Alignment */

2020-11-22T06:26:12Z

Gendered Alignment

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	== Gendered Alignment ==		== Gendered Alignment ==
	Classes have no gender alignment in Vast Error.		Classes have no gender alignment in Vast Error.
			<ref>"Gendered classes are absolutely not a thing in ve"-@eddieDraws[https://discordapp.com/channels/259021334804299786/747967215348875284/779931331072098324]</ref>

	== {{Anchor\|Thief}} and {{Anchor\|Rogue}} ==		== {{Anchor\|Thief}} and {{Anchor\|Rogue}} ==

>Chaoticwoof: After discussing in the Discord, confirmed there is no gendered class in Vast Error, so removed that section. adjusted gendered language in the other sections. Could remove the gendered alignment section in the future and simply make it a fact of trivia for clarity.

2020-11-22T06:21:44Z

After discussing in the Discord, confirmed there is no gendered class in Vast Error, so removed that section. adjusted gendered language in the other sections. Could remove the gendered alignment section in the future and simply make it a fact of trivia for clarity.

>Pannilovie at 17:07, 9 October 2020

2020-10-09T17:07:53Z

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	Thief and Rogue are a pair of classes, respectively active and passive. They are assigned typically, but not exclusively, to female players. They deal with the redistribution of an aspect. While the active Thief will steal, or take their aspect for themselves, the passive Rogue will generally distribute it to someone or something outside of themselves after taking it.		Thief and Rogue are a pair of classes, respectively active and passive. They are assigned typically, but not exclusively, to female players. They deal with the redistribution of an aspect. While the active Thief will steal, or take their aspect for themselves, the passive Rogue will generally distribute it to someone or something outside of themselves after taking it.

	~~The only known Thief is~~ [[Murrit Turkin]], the Thief of Time; the only known Rogue is [[Dismas Mersiv]], the Rogue of Mind.		[[Murrit Turkin]] is the Thief of Time and [[Seething Shezmu]] is the Thief of Blood, while the only known Rogue is [[Dismas Mersiv]], the Rogue of Mind.

	== Heir ==		== Heir ==
	The exact powers of the Heir class are unknown and are up to reader interpretation. Whether the class is active or passive is also unknown. The gender alignment for the class appears to prefer males, but whether or not the class is male exclusive is unknown.		The exact powers of the Heir class are unknown and are up to reader interpretation. Whether the class is active or passive is also unknown. The gender alignment for the class appears to prefer males, but whether or not the class is male exclusive is unknown.

	~~The only known Heir is~~ [[Jentha Briati]], the Heir of Light.		[[Jentha Briati]] is the Heir of Light while [[Hyperbolic Behemoth]] is the Heir of Heart.

	== Maid ==		== Maid ==
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	Pages seem to have a tendency to begin their sessions with a personal deficit in their aspect.		Pages seem to have a tendency to begin their sessions with a personal deficit in their aspect.

	~~The only known Page is~~ [[Sovara Amelie]], the Page of Heart.		[[Sovara Amelie]] is the Page of Heart while [[Crypthead Dionysus]] is the Page of Doom.

	== Knight ==		== Knight ==
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	The exact definition of the Mage class is unknown, as is its passive/active alignment. The Mage class is assigned to both males and females.		The exact definition of the Mage class is unknown, as is its passive/active alignment. The Mage class is assigned to both males and females.

	~~The only known Mage is~~ [[Ellsee Raines]], the Mage of Life.		[[Ellsee Raines]] is the Mage of Life while [[Despotic Deimos]] is the Mage of Mind.

	== Sylph ==		== Sylph ==

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	== Gendered Alignment ==		== Gendered Alignment ==
	~~All the classes~~ have ~~different~~ gender alignments, with some of the classes tending to be assigned to both males and females, with others being exclusive to a certain gender. While not all the gender alignments are known, there are equal numbers of male exclusive and female exclusive classes. So far three male exclusive classes (Bard, Prince, and Lord) and a single female exclusive class (Muse) have been confirmed. Out of the remaining ten classes, five are known to be assigned to both genders (Knight, Rogue, Thief, Seer, and Mage) although some of them have a bias towards a certain gender, and the final five have only been shown assigned to a single gender but unconfirmed to be gender exclusive (Heir, Maid, Page, Sylph, and Witch). Given the unbalanced numbers at least two of the remaining five must be female exclusive (presumably Witch and Maid because of their feminine connotation), with the remaining three (Heir, Sylph, and Page) all assigned to both genders or split between gender exclusive and gender biased.		Classes have no gender alignment in Vast Error.

	== {{Anchor\|Thief}} and {{Anchor\|Rogue}} ==		== {{Anchor\|Thief}} and {{Anchor\|Rogue}} ==
	Thief and Rogue are a pair of classes, respectively active and passive~~. They are assigned typically, but not exclusively, to female players~~. They deal with the redistribution of an aspect. While the active Thief will steal, or take their aspect for themselves, the passive Rogue will generally distribute it to someone or something outside of themselves after taking it.		Thief and Rogue are a pair of classes, respectively active and passive. They deal with the redistribution of an aspect. While the active Thief will steal, or take their aspect for themselves, the passive Rogue will generally distribute it to someone or something outside of themselves after taking it.

	[[Murrit Turkin]] is the Thief of Time and [[Seething Shezmu]] is the Thief of Blood, while the only known Rogue is [[Dismas Mersiv]], the Rogue of Mind.		[[Murrit Turkin]] is the Thief of Time and [[Seething Shezmu]] is the Thief of Blood, while the only known Rogue is [[Dismas Mersiv]], the Rogue of Mind.

	== Heir ==		== Heir ==
	The exact powers of the Heir class are unknown and are up to reader interpretation. Whether the class is active or passive is also ~~unknown. The gender alignment for the class appears to prefer males, but whether or not the class is male exclusive is~~ unknown.		The exact powers of the Heir class are unknown and are up to reader interpretation. Whether the class is active or passive is also unknown.

	[[Jentha Briati]] is the Heir of Light while [[Hyperbolic Behemoth]] is the Heir of Heart.		[[Jentha Briati]] is the Heir of Light while [[Hyperbolic Behemoth]] is the Heir of Heart.
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	== Knight ==		== Knight ==
	~~The Knight is a class assigned to both male and female players.~~ The exact powers of a Knight are unknown, but they have been shown as warriors that exploit their aspect as a weapon. It is unclear where they fall on the active/passive axis.		The exact powers of a Knight are unknown, but they have been shown as warriors that exploit their aspect as a weapon. It is unclear where they fall on the active/passive axis.

	The only known Knight is [[Laivan Ferroo]], the Knight of Space.		The only known Knight is [[Laivan Ferroo]], the Knight of Space.

	== Seer ==		== Seer ==
	The Seer is a passive (+) class~~, assigned to both male and female players~~, that uses extensive knowledge to coordinate their team members. They understand their aspect comprehensively. Seers will also keep their party from making grave mistakes as if they had a strategy guide imprinted deep in their mind. The knowledge of offshoot timeline outcomes is fully within their domains.		The Seer is a passive (+) class, that uses extensive knowledge to coordinate their team members. They understand their aspect comprehensively. Seers will also keep their party from making grave mistakes as if they had a strategy guide imprinted deep in their mind. The knowledge of offshoot timeline outcomes is fully within their domains.

	The only known Seer is [[Albion Shukra]], the Seer of Hope.		The only known Seer is [[Albion Shukra]], the Seer of Hope.

	== Mage ==		== Mage ==
	The exact definition of the Mage class is unknown, as is its passive/active alignment~~. The Mage class is assigned to both males and females~~.		The exact definition of the Mage class is unknown, as is its passive/active alignment.

	[[Ellsee Raines]] is the Mage of Life while [[Despotic Deimos]] is the Mage of Mind.		[[Ellsee Raines]] is the Mage of Life while [[Despotic Deimos]] is the Mage of Mind.
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	== {{Anchor\|Bard}} and {{Anchor\|Prince}} ==		== {{Anchor\|Bard}} and {{Anchor\|Prince}} ==
	Bard and Prince are a pair of classes, respectively passive (+) and active (-), that ~~are exclusively male and~~ deal with destruction. The Prince, as the active, is literally simplified to "destroyer of [aspect]" or "one who destroys via [aspect]". Bards are somewhat stranger, in that they "allow the destruction of [aspect]" or "invite destruction through [aspect]". The Bard is also quite the wildcard, unpredictable by nature and thus equally likely to help or hinder his party, often to great effect. In extreme cases, they are single-handedly responsible for their party's massive downfall, their improbable victory, or sometimes even both.		Bard and Prince are a pair of classes, respectively passive (+) and active (-), that deal with destruction. The Prince, as the active, is literally simplified to "destroyer of [aspect]" or "one who destroys via [aspect]". Bards are somewhat stranger, in that they "allow the destruction of [aspect]" or "invite destruction through [aspect]". The Bard is also quite the wildcard, unpredictable by nature and thus equally likely to help or hinder his party, often to great effect. In extreme cases, they are single-handedly responsible for their party's massive downfall, their improbable victory, or sometimes even both.

	Princes, it seems, are devoid of their aspect. Due to their nature as the destroyer class, it stands to reason that they destroy their aspect in themselves.		Princes, it seems, are devoid of their aspect. Due to their nature as the destroyer class, it stands to reason that they destroy their aspect in themselves.
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	=={{Anchor\|Muse}} and {{Anchor\|Lord}}==		=={{Anchor\|Muse}} and {{Anchor\|Lord}}==
	These two classes (the so-called master classes) are significantly more powerful than the others. The Muse is ~~female-exclusive and~~ the most passive (+) of all classes, while the Lord is ~~male-exclusive and~~ the most active (-). Presumably, these classes are paired.		These two classes (the so-called master classes) are significantly more powerful than the others. The Muse is the most passive (+) of all classes, while the Lord is the most active (-). Presumably, these classes are paired.

	It could be speculated that these classes deal with interference at a cosmic level.		It could be speculated that these classes deal with interference at a cosmic level.
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	Progressing as a Lord involves excruciating effort and a large amount of suffering.		Progressing as a Lord involves excruciating effort and a large amount of suffering.

	In fact, taking all of the above points together, it may be suggested that the two master classes are at least partially codified by the ability of the player to influence events '''indirectly''': the Muse ''inspires'' others' actions despite not being in a position to do anything directly by ~~herself~~, while the Lord ''instructs'' ~~his~~ minions' actions in the places he cannot reach.		In fact, taking all of the above points together, it may be suggested that the two master classes are at least partially codified by the ability of the player to influence events '''indirectly''': the Muse ''inspires'' others' actions despite not being in a position to do anything directly by themself, while the Lord ''instructs'' their minions' actions in the places they cannot reach.

	It is possible that these classes are "master classes" in the sense that they are "master copies," or guidelines for what defines active and passive classes. Alternatively, it could also be presumed that the lord holds the combined roles of the active (-) classes, while the muse has the roles of the passive (+).		It is possible that these classes are "master classes" in the sense that they are "master copies," or guidelines for what defines active and passive classes. Alternatively, it could also be presumed that the lord holds the combined roles of the active (-) classes, while the muse has the roles of the passive (+).